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Date Add : 09-24-2009 

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I am 64, unemployed and have 39 of the required 40 credits of work.

I am sole trustee and sole beneficiary of a trust that permits me to charge a trustee fee (which I have not been doing).

How much in trustee fees would I have to pay myself from the trust this year in order to earn the extra 1 credit to get me to the 40?


Support Replied ~ 07-28-2009 18:06:43

Dear F.W.:
I think you are talking about having a net gain-self employment situation. You need to have at least $1090 on Line 4 of the schedule SE. That means you would have to pay fica tax of at least $1090 to get one quarter of credit. If you need to ask more questions, call me at 727-386-5104. Thanks for your contribution....Carol
Your Comment ~ 07-29-2009 09:04:17

Thank you for helping me figure this out (I'm almost there).

I'm unclear as to what "one quarter of credit means."

Do you mean that paying a fica tax of at least $1090 per quarter will earn one-quarter of the one full credit I need to reach 40 credits (i.e. I would have to pay fica tax of $4,360 total for a year to earn the additional one credit I need)?

My Your Social Security Statement says, "...you earn one credit for each $1,050 of wages or self-employment income."

To me, that says that if I pay myself $1,050 in trustee fees this year, I will have the 40 points needed when I reach 65 next year.
Is this accurate?

Thanks, again.


Support Replied ~ 07-29-2009 14:51:16

Dear F.W.:
You only have to earn $1050 to earn that one quarter. You do not have to claim for four quarters to get one. Like I said, make sure that line 4 of the schedule SE shows the net gain. SS goes by net gain or w2......Carol



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